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Genie 4

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  • pllbnk
    I don't know. With each new release of these models, they compare side-by-side how they are better than the previous ones, but at the same time I feel less impressed by each new release. Somehow they manage to be a seemingly big step forward but at the same time I feel I have seen so much AI that I just look at the common failure modes and they are all still there.It's easy for them to show demos of abstract things because they don't necessarily have to follow real-world rules, but anything modeled after real world falls short of expectations.
  • kouteiheika
    Looks cool, but it's very hard to get me excited about yet another proprietary model for which absolutely zero technical details are released (not even the number of parameters), which is safetymaxxed to the limit, and whose usage quota will (most likely) be so limited that it'll be effectively useless for anyone who doesn't work at Google or doesn't have infinite money.
  • tumdum_
    It looks sooo boring and generic that it's hard for me to imagine anyone thought https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFfPkUJd_Jk is a good showcase.
  • mlmonkey
    In the clip with a marble bust dropped on a watermelon, at this point https://imgur.com/a/IHLnkUs the bust should've toppled over, if the physics were properly modeled.
  • gcanyon
    A nit, but given that this is from a major corporation, and LLMs are supposed to be em-dash-happy, it's surprising (disappointing?) that the announcement uses:> audio-like musicThat's a hyphen. What's "audio-like music" -- music that is almost sound but not quite? Music made from raw audio? :-)
  • daniel31x13
    Reminds me of a post[1] by Sam Altman in 2024:> movies are going to become video games and video games are going to become something unimaginably betterSometimes I really wanna skip 10 years into the future and see where all this eventually leads.[1]: https://x.com/sama/status/1776083954786836979
  • senderista
    Can't wait for the hyper-realistic customer service bots and deepfake propaganda videos.
  • smusamashah
    A big chunk of the right side of castle disappeared, including catapult, when camera turned back while flying on dragon. See 1:25 to 1:29. I was not expecting this to happen in a "world model".
  • sosodev
    Cool demos, but does anybody else find it troubling that companies keep claiming this tech can train robots? It’s so obviously not representative of the real world.
  • gradascent
    > Genie 4 is natively multimodal, enabling audio-like music, ambient noises, and interactive dialogueWhat on Earth is audio-like music? Do they mean music-like audio?
  • Kotlopou
    If the checker clip is meant to be used to develop a robot to play checkers, then the physics is not remotely good enough. When the robot takes the first piece, the piece looks like it's moving up from the board, then suddenly doesn't. The last move also isn't valid checkers, unless I'm missing something -- the robot offers its piece to be eaten and the human doesn't take it.
  • meerita
    The future of movies will be promising.[1]: https://www.minid.net/2026/8/2/the-actor-was-the-expensive-p...
  • TheAceOfHearts
    I would like to see how it breaks, don't spend all your focus on how nice it looks with specially curated shots. At least give a few examples of what happens when it breaks from running too long. They mention that it can fail under "Understanding current limitations" but don't show any examples. Especially since they mention the cases of safety and responsible use, it seems quite relevant to help prepare people by showing them some examples of how it can break and so you an learn to spot it.
  • TGower
    That stained glass landscape video is pretty cool. I wonder if it would be possible to implement that effect in a real-time game engine.
  • germanjoey
    In the man walking through the dressing room scene, the camera starts behind the man. And you can see that the left half of his body is wearing a grey suit... but the right half is wearing a grey dress. :O
  • segmondy
    With Anthropic going public, I expect a lot of model releases from the competition signalling to the market. "We are still around, please leave some money for us too"
  • runtime_terror
    Gotta love the kraken destroying the city in the background of the Hong Kong lovers motorcycle scene despite nothing in the prompt about monsters. Filmmakers are still safe.
  • oldfuture
    guys they are building digital cages so they can rob you blind while you are in your nice digital world, sorry we will ignore this stuff into oblivion
  • yipinwong
    The prompts build impressive clips.I am more interested in how to make consistent "participants" and "environment" with multiple clips so they look like one longer clip.Will that require same dev/coding harness and spec-kit-like engineering flow?Like create a spec on how a movie will look like, feed contexts, create tasks so that multiple clips look congruent?
  • mynti
    Again, very impressive from a technical point. But language is so flawed to do anything creative. It just turns out all looking the same and kind of boring
  • dogleash
    >audio-like musicMy favorite kind of music.
  • anon
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  • vatsachak
    What is the point of this vs cheap robotic arm simulations?The only place I see this applicable is for visual artists prototyping
  • zardo
    Showing off an anglo-bias with the Japanese train station in the 1980s, with a man speaking english.
  • sodacanner
    I don't know if I'm missing the point, but Genie 4 almost looks worse than Genie 3 in terms of player control? It doesn't even seem to respond to inputs, it just looks like they took some AI generated videos and put the key widgets on top.
  • BatFastard
    Amazing!Question I have is when will they be able to render something more then 30 seconds.And how much will it cost? There has to be a HUGE amount of computing power behind this. As a video game developer I live in fear and anticipation.
  • HughParry
    >coming soon to Google AI Ultra subscribers in Project GenieWould be fun to muck around with world models. Are there any that I can try for under £200 p/m without being part of a special project?
  • WarmWash
    I highly suspect that Genie is being made primarily for internal use, and access is more to gather feedback/training data and a bit of PR.
  • alphabetting
    The playable element is cool PR but the news is that endless synthetic training data for embodied AI models is basically here or close.
  • ytxm
    Surprised that "do you really think we're going to make it?" scene made the cut of the first video, her expression and tone is totally out of sync with the scene and demonstrates the problem with almost every AI gen video I've come across when it comes to capturing humanity.The painting->interactive scene looks astonishing though
  • Sol-
    Neuralink integration and I'm out of here.
  • mike_hearn
    Google aren't the only ones with this tech. You can try out a 24/7 rolling set of video feeds for yourself at https://fal.liveAn LLM generates four alternative prompts for what could happen next and there's a real time vote running for each option. It's trippy, like watching someone's dream.
  • reverseblade2
    Infinite Tsukuyomi is coming soon…
  • jackb4040
    It's hard for me to understand Google's redefinition of "world models" (basically: a txt2videogame modality for LLMs) as anything other than an attempt to bury Yann Lecun's definition of "world models", which includes an implicit bear case against LLMs and thus Google's stock price.
  • prymitive
    The third video is proof that v4 can, ekhm, walk slower?
  • inshard
    So world models capture inherent complexity of physical reality to help teach AI about hidden laws which probably helps train both LLMs and multimodal models used for autonomous vehicles and robots? And AMD acquiring World Labs is a move to outdo Nvidia’s work in this space. And Google probably sees this as a gateway to a new platform of autonomous vehicles and humanoids that they could rent out as a CSP? Competing with Nvidia, Tesla and complementing Waymo. Am I getting that right?
  • wolttam
    > "A REAL, ultra-photorealistic, high-end 35mm cinematic first-person perspective..."Real nice prompting there, Google. It also still looks like a video game rendering.
  • siva7
    So if those genie 4 characters have all individual chain of thought reasoning and persistent retrospection / recollection, how do these human characters know they are not living in a simulation made by biological humans? Not sure you understand what i'm getting at. Some ethical questions do arise.
  • m3kw9
    Why can't Google just announce something and release at the same day, not always this stupid wait list stuff.
  • _s_a_m_
    i am starting to get model fatigue..
  • ddtaylor
    Is anyone actually making any games with these tools? Like, can I play one on Steam or something?
  • zhengyi13
    "Building world models responsibly"... I'm suddenly reminded of Iain M Banks' "Surface Detail".
  • suncore
    Impressive slop. But slop nonetheless.
  • jeffbee
    Prompt: make a press release that isn't a slideshow on this company's own browser and hardware platform.
  • TZubiri
    Who'd be down to write a science fiction novel where creating fake images is a crime and not a product?
  • viccis
    Hmm, wonder if Databricks trademarked their Genie AI product.
  • pdntspa
    So does this export 3d assets or an Unreal/godot/unity project so it can be turne dinto a game or is it limited to their runtime?
  • anon
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  • avazhi
    Not really impressive at all at this point. That dragon clip was pretty awful. If you told me this page was from 2024 I’d believe you.
  • artursapek
    why does this need to exist?
  • tempfile
    What the fuck are the little wasd/arrow keys supposed to mean? They have no relationship to the movement of the character or the camera. It's just flashing buttons.
  • pacman1337
    this is the gta6 I am was hoping for
  • varispeed
    What is this for? I cannot understand these models. They are very much polluting the internet with nonsense and use capacity that people and businesses need for actual work.If these are the cause of why I have to pay 2-4x I used to for a computer, then Google should go fuck themselves.
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  • Zambyte
    From the auto-generated captions on the YouTube video on this page.> Genie form [sic] can simulate scenariosIt's kind of amazing: the juxtaposition of such advanced generative AI and such terrible speech-to-text coming from the same parent company.
  • Aeveus
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  • rvz
    As I said before, World models will become simulation engines of AAA games where there is no need to release the actual game artifact and even if the game exists as a binary artifact, it will never be released and will be available on their hosted cloud back-end, then simulated and streamed back to you.So, Stadia + World Models = New generation of DRM for games.
  • 233mhz
    Y tho?
  • delichon
    Every increment of advance in this field is an increment of evidence that we are simulations.
  • ajs1998
    Who is asking for this? Do advertisers really want this? I feel dread about many of the AI products being sold. They're mostly tools to help funnel money from the users to the bosses.